When Passions Go Awry.

I have noticed that missing and murdered child cases have always stirred up passions with the participants of the various blogs, forums and chats about these cases on the internet. I have been just made aware of such an event.

At the center of this event is the highly respected Websleuths.com owned by Ms. Griffith. I began getting e-mails and im's regarding an action by a group of posters on Websleuths. It seems that the Anthony's were scheduled to attend a victims conference ie: the Melanie Ilene Rieger Memorial Conference. Mark Klaas has mentioned this upcoming conference on the Nancy Grace show recently.

As seems to be the case lately when it is heard that the Anthony's are to make an appearence on a tv show or attend an event, there are those who feel it necessary to start some kind of e-mail protest against their appearing at said event.

I have stood idly by in the past when these protests have been organized. This time I cannot. This is one time where it was a big mistake for the members of Websleuths do conduct this protest. This was one of the few times that the Anthony's can do some good.

Whatever we feel about the Anthony's they have lost a Grand daughter and stand to loose a Daughter to either life in prison or be put to death for the murder of their Greand daughter.

I feel that this protest was a mistake and that, in the future, those groups that wish to partake in these protests need to take a wider view of what has been going on with this case before deciding on any actions of this nature.

According to this open letter posted on Websleuths, the owner was not aware that her website was at the center of this protest.

She recently published this letter to her members:

Yesterday, 12:00 AM
Tricia
Administrator Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Under that huge "house of cards" falling on me. Wow!
Posts: 6,007

To those who wish to vilify the Melanie Rieger Conference
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I received a call from Marc Klaas today. It seems members of Websleuths have been sending some angry emails to a wonderful organization based on what Marc said on Nancy the other night. I asked Marc to put his concerns in writing for me to post. Below is from Marc to us.

What bothers me is it seems some members took it upon themselves to use Websleuths to organize an actual email campaign against Sam and Wanda Rieger.

First, any email campaign, any petition, any sort of organized anything, has to be approved by me. That has always been a hard and fast rule here.

Of course what you do off the forum is none of my business but when an organization like the Melanie Rieger Conference receives emails from people saying they are from Websleuths then it becomes my business.

If the people who did this would have followed the rules and contacted me we could have avoided this embarrassing situation.

This is a totally different situation that (sic) Oprah. Even so, when someone posted about an "email campaign" Jbean pulled that thread until I approved it. I made the mistake of not posting a reminder about organizing email campaigns.

Websleuths is a very different forum in that it is privately owned by one person. I take a very active role in setting the rules for Websleuths. I am blessed with a great team of moderators who share my goals and make sure the forum runs smoothly.

I will be sending a letter to everyone involved in the Melanie Rieger Conference explaining that this was not endorsed by Websleuths in any way.

I don't know how many people were involved in this but apparently it was enough people from Websleuths writing some very angry and unfair emails to prompt Marc to contact me.

What I have found is Websleuths is a very respected forum. That has everything to do with you as the poster. With posters like you who post within reason and without name calling. When something like this happens it hurts all of us.

I'll leave the thread open if anyone has any questions or would like to comment.

Tricia

Now, as a result of this campaign Mark Klaas sent an open letter to Websleuths with his view of what had occured.

The other night you apparently heard, or somebody told you about, comments that I made on the Nancy Grace Show about George and Cindy Anthony’s scheduled appearance at the upcoming Melanie Ilene Rieger Memorial Conference. From those comments much has been imagined, speculated upon, and regurgitated in unfortunate ways. I would like to provide some context in hopes that you will modify your opinion and re-direct your anger.

Melanie Ilene Rieger, a college student, was murdered by her boyfriend on May 24, 1994. The conference was established by her parents Sam and Wanda, in her memory with the hope that others would avoid such tragedy. This year will mark my eleventh appearance at the conference. Not only am I honored and humbled by each and every invitation, but I consider my attendance as one of the high points of my year.

You see, the Melanie Rieger Conference is a serious forum that gathers amazing people with diverse perspectives about violent crime. Victims, service providers, law enforcement representatives, politicians and other advocates gather to find commonality, to discuss issues and to provide solutions to the myriad problems faced by crime victims. Over the course of my attendance I have met a diverse population of individuals who have educated and enlightened me, who have contributed to the body of literature and understanding, and have eased the burden of victimization. To malign these people and this conference based upon a few words or a single reference is unfair.

Anyone who has ever attended the Melanie Rieger Conference understands that it is a respectful forum that refuses to promote itself in an undignified way. The first mention that George and Cindy Anthony had been invited to attend was when I mentioned that fact on the Nancy Grace Show on April 20. Therefore, it is disingenuous to suggest that they are appearing as a way to drum up publicity for the conference. Anyone who would do so speaks from a lack of knowledge.

No single individual establishes the agenda or the guest list for the Melanie Rieger Conference, nor are these considerations made in a vacuum. The Conference Committee invites individual presenters months in advance, without foreknowledge of how events will affect those choices. Everyone invited to present at the Melanie Rieger Conference is considered carefully and chosen because they are either a member of the victim’s community or they are in a position to impact the community of victims. They are not chosen based on popularity or their contribution to pop culture.

I have known Sam and Wanda Rieger for more than a decade. They founded the Melanie Ilene Rieger Memorial Conference as a way to give meaning to their daughter’s murder. They are two of the finest people that I have ever met and two of the most steadfast and dedicated victim’s advocates in the United States.

Sincerely,


Marc Klaas
KlaasKids Foundation
P.O. Box 925
Sausalito, CA 94966
www.klaaskids.org

I am not going to criticize Websleuths or MS. Griffith for the actions of her members. This action was clearly taken without her approval.

She operates a large and powerfull message site with a large number of active posters some with deep passionate feelings about what happened to Caylee and have intense feelings toward the Anthony's.

Their passions led to the situation that Websleuths and Ms. Griffith find themselves in today. Already a number of blogs have taken advangage of this situation and have have posted negative articles regarding Ms. Griffith and Websleuths.

I am not going to take that position. Mistakes happen everyday. I have made a few of my own. Events happened at Websleuths that the owner or her administrators were not able to prevent in time to cause some problems.

The best thing everyone can do here is to learn from these mistakes and move on.

MURT

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MISSING THE POINT

One common trend I have noticed when reading the comments in response to my posts is that everyone seems to be missing the point.

Rather than concentrate on the subject of the posts that are made, the comments drift off into unimportant areas such as how to ship a computer from a remote hamlet to Orlando.

Such nit picking is a distraction and does nothing more than deviate away from the subject at hand. In retrospect, this may be the idea behind the comments in the first place.

Some of those who comment here are not here for the truth but to continue the bashing and smearing that goes on elsewhere.

I did not start this blog to generate numbers or "to gain or generate attention." The fact that it remains a small and obscure blog bears that out.

The blog was started, in part, to address requests by some for me to tell what has been happening to me and why. It is also to point out that what is happening to me is part of a growing trend on the internet. There are a number of cyber-wars going on out there between different groups who cannot seem to debate in a respectful fashion but rather will lie cheat and steal or do whatever it takes to silence those which whom they have issues with.

This blog has been the pain in the ass I expected it to me and the trolls have invaded this blog as they have other sites I have set up. Anyone who thinks I set this blog up for my benefit is simply nuts.

It is time consuming and I make a lot of spelling errors and other mistakes in writing due to the fact there is no built in spell checking.

If someone has a REAL TIME spell check that I can use with this thing, let me know.

In closing I have this question. How would some of the other players out there stand up to such intense "cross examination?" It would be interesting to find out.

OUTINGS

BAD CHEMASTRY: WHEN CHLOROFORM AND "MONOXIDE" CLASH

When I get an e-mail, pm, im, or lately, dvd,s flash memory cards and even hard drives, and they begin with "please do not tell...." I know things are going to be interesting.

Lately, this is exactly what has been happening.

History, in my case, has actually been repeating itself. Around two years ago or so, there was dissent in the ranks of a few that were umm "causing problems." I started to get instant messages and e-mails, most of which would start "please do not tell....who I am.....where you got this, etc. " and would contain the most interesting secrets about the so called trouble maker.

Things progressed rather quickly to the point where I wound up with two pc's and a lap top. the latter being purchased from it's owner.

Needless to say all contained some rather personal and potentaly damaging information about a large number of posters on message boards and presumably PRIVATE forums.

For some strange reason, people are naieve enough to believe that when they log into a PRIVATE message board, forum,chat or blog, that their comments and other information will remain private.

History, over the last two months has repeated itself. Up until a few weeks ago, I was getting mostly e-mails, pm's, the occasional phone call, and even a number of dvd's.

That all changed, however, when I recieved offers of entire pc's either free or for next to nothing. I was a bit startled at these offers until I was able to take the "seller's" offers and began to see just what was on these machines (a total of 9 to date and more to get). It turns out the information contained within these things were more useful and understandable when obtained complete rather than individual files as I had been getting in the past.

I was able to combine my "shopping sprees"with other concerns on my recent travels to pick these devices up.

About now, everyone is scratching their heads and wondering why someone would go to the trouble of:

A: Send me this stuff and offer to give or sell real cheap,their devices.

B: traveling TO where these devices are located and also meet "interested parties" that have to do with some questions I have been trying to get answered for some time.

There is actually more than one answer to A; The primary answer is that for reasons of their own, the individuals have decided it is in their best interest to "come clean" and be rid of the device one way or another.

Another answer to A: Is disention in the ranks. It seems that the leaders of these groups have betrayed the trust of their followers and have made certain threats. The net result has been the leaders sending me information and the followers sending me information.

This progressed from the simple sending of "interesting" e-mails, photos and screenshots to sending me dvd's and memory devices and finally to sending hard drives, portable storage devices, and even complete pc's.

This led me to reason B: having to fly around to pick these things up as well as meeting with the "seller" to get supporting information.

I had not expected more to come of this than the usual e-mail or other standard communication as there was dissent within the ranks of some of these groups and the members contacting me for their own reasons. Something akin to "no honor among theives " being the rule here.

In other cases, the leaders of the vary same groups would send me information on some of their followers that they had issues with or with other groups leaders and members for the same reason.

This was the original reason for the Trust, post which nobody seemed to get.

I had not intended to be forthcoming about what the nature of the information I was getting and how until I recieved the link to a rather interesting video.

The contents of the video was the reason I made the post wanting to know who the two women are that I wrote about.

The person who sent me the link has distributed the video on a certain stream site and is in the process of e-mailing the link of the video to individuals who the sender feels worthy of this material.

The sender also says the video will be on at least youtube.com and perhaps some other "mainstream" streaming sites after the most extreme elements are edited out in order to meet their tos requirements.

When this video is seen, it will not shed a good light on this single mother. I still am not going to say who either of the women are in the video, even though I have recieved absolute and undenialable proof as to who they are.

I also am not going to post the link. It is against the tos of the blog host to link videos of such an explicit nature. You can take that for what it is worth.

I gave this information out so that the subject of the video will know that it is not me that released it but "one of your most trusted friends" who decided to do so after being betrayed.

I leave you all with this simple message:
The private, chat rooms, blogs, forums etc. you are in are not private.
The private, e-mails, personal messages, instant messages and phone calls are not private.
The leaders of your favorite blogs, chats etc, are not as honerable or trustworthy as you may think. If you think otherwise, you may be in for a rude awakening.

Well, it is off to see what other gifts lay in wait in my mail box.

WHO ARE THESE WOMEN?

I need to know if anyone knows who either of these women are. It is vary important.

You can leave a comment here, or, as I would prefer, send me an e-mail with the appropriate information to:
MURT@MURTWITNESSONE.COM

UPDATE: IT NOW TURNS OUT THAT THE E-MAIL THAT STARTED THE EVENTS WRITTEN ABOUT IN THIS POST WAS A HOAX MEANT TO SET ME UP. ONCE I REVEAL JUST WHO IS THE AUTHOR OF THE LETTERS ALONG WITH THE CLEAR CUT PROOF TO BACK THIS CLAIM UP, MABIE PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND THE LACK OF CREDABILITY THIS PERSON HAS.

ARE YOU NEXT?

Someone on another blog posted this. I used to use this poem in the past when making the argument about this kind of cyber censorship. Sadly it still fits almost 3 years after I first cited it:

Anonymous said...

First they came...

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

"First they came…" is a poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group.

Stay tuned.

STFU....OR ELSE

Something sinister is happening on the internet. It now appears to be accepted practice that, if someone disagrees with your opinion or gets banned from a forum, chat room, or blog, that threats are made that if you do not STFU, and unending campign of cyber bullying, cyber, smearing, prank phones, and other widespread attempts at cyber censorship will take place.

Rather than have a civilized discussion about how I run my broadcasts, and chats. A few out on the internet insist of conducting an investigation almost at a level of law enforcement.

For some odd reason it seems imparitive for some out there to do a thorough background starting from the day I was born up to the present day and then post virtually all of this information on the internet.

Some also feel it imparitive to post the personal information about my fiance and engage in the same kind of cyber terrorism targeted at me.
There has always been the same excuse by those who engage in these tactics which is;"You posted your name address etc. on the internet for all to see."

Yes, that is true, for the simple reason that I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE. I do not feel the need to hide behind anon usernames or e-mail accounts for I have nothing to be ashamed of.
Have I made mistakes? Yes, and I have admitted to those mistakes many times over.

This brings me to this point. MY FIANCE HAS NEVER POSTED ANY OF HER PERSONAL INFORMATION ANYWHERE. I never told ANYONE on the internet her last name.
Yet SOMEONE SOMEWHERE found out her full name and posted it on the internet. They even gleefully posted any and all information about why they THOUGHT was her.

As it turns out they wound up tormenting some poor woman who had the bad luck of having the same name as my fiance.

The question is why such dramatic efforts?

The answer is quite simple. It is intimidation by those out there who want to silence me and others. It is a propaganda tool by those who do not believe in our constitutional rights to freedom of expression, ie: freedom of speech.

It is a campign from others who felt they were onto a money making machine, and when they were rejected they sought to get even because they felt that "If I cannot make any money off of this, well, neither will you." or "If we shut him down, we can make the money ourselves."

Recent events seem to indicate proof that the latter is true.

WHAT DOES NOT GET POSTED is the fact that in all of their thorough searches they did NOT find ANYTHING that would even come close to being even a minute scandal.

They have NOT posted, is that I have NO criminal history OF ANY KIND.
There are NO records ANYWHERE of any civil actions, no lawsuits, nothing.
There are NO records of complaints against ANY of my businesses with any agency that regulates these businesses.
There are no divorce records anywhere.
What does not get posted are the POSITIVE parts of my background, some of which I am happy does not, for at least some portions of my life can remain private.

There are a lot inconvenient truths out there for those with the skills to find them. Those who have found them have elected to remain quiet for the simple reason that it would undo their efforts.

That brings me to this one point. None of these actions are called for and are a serious breech of ethics both on and off the internet.

There is an old saying out there "If you do not like the show, change the channel."
Not only do these people not change the channel, they keep coming back.

Some have even gone so far as to gain unauthorized access to my e-mail accounts, web sites, myspace, photobucket and other sites to steal information contained within these locations or change the content within the accounts and, in some cases, post pornography.
Some have opened paypal accounts using my name in an attempt to raise funds for their own greedy purposes.

In their terrorism, they intimidate those who are subscribers of my chats, and websites, by investing THEIR backgrounds and then publishing THEIR information on public chat sites, forums, and message sites.

Some start blogs where they steal my content and that of other blogs for the specific purpose of conducting their own [ersonal smear campign. They even do a lot of these things IN PRIVATE most likely due to the fact that they realise that they are liable for their actions, and in some cases, may be breaking the law.

Many of these people will go to the various chat and message sites and log in using fake usernames so nobody will know who they truely are for the sole purpose of sabatoging the site.

Some of these people engage in the serious breech of ethics of publishing PRIVATE, instant messaging, PRIVATE messages and e-mails.

The excuse today is that "it is just the internet" or "nothing is private" on the internet anymore.

The problem with that excuse is that it is true. Honesty no longer exists on the internet. You cannot trust someone that when you tell them something that is meant to be private, will stay private.

You cannot trust someone that when you send them a PRIVATE message, that it will stay PRIVATE.

You cannot trust someone that when you send them a PRIVATE e-mail, that it will be private.

When someone contacts you, you cannot trust that they are who they are, believe in what they say they believe in, or keep any promise they make.

In short, you cannot trust anyone to keep their word.

In order to accomplish their goals these people will lie, cheat, break the law, violate the fundamental rules of ethics of society no matter the harm it does to the target of their actions.

Out of all of this comes a fundamental truth. What goes around comes around. In order to carry out some of these activities, a certain level of trust is needed between those involved.

If one of them becomes dissatasfied, feels wronged, has power taken away or is otherwise disenfranchised or disallusioned, that one can start the process against the others.

I made the statement once that I do not trust ANYONE on the internet.
That, sadly,should be true for EVERYONE.
Your closest friend on the internet could be your worst enemy.
THAT closest friend could lie cheat and steal in order to "get you" or "get even."

Rather than the internet being a place to meet new friends and engage in good social interactions, it will become a place for hermits who only log onto the internet to read comic books, watch viral videos, or download music.

I close with this. There will be those who will mock and complain about this entry. They will come here and call me names, and attempt to post their lies about me.

I am here to give this warning. It is not that you may be next, it is that you WILL be next. As others see the power that is to be had by engaging in these tactics, someone somewhere who has an issue with YOU will come after YOU.

Enjoy that which you do on to others as others will enjoy what they do onto you.

SAY WHAT?

I have recieved word that the owner of BH asked for funds (conations etc) and "wants a retraction or face the consequences. Well,read on:

According to the following sources, the owner has sought funds for anything for finding a place to live, to purchase items thus making money by her smearing of ME.

SOURCE: #1: http://www.cafepress.com/beaconhell
This store actually goes along with source #3: as it was set up when that post was made. The product line has changed since the time of that post.

SOURCE #2:http://www.zazzle.com/suedehead

The t-shirt on this store site may be a copyright violation since MURTARD is used by my room and also uses a portion of a copyrighted name of a business registered in the State of Florida.

Source #3: A DIRECT appeal for members to buy items from her store in order "get an apartment"

Brand Spankin New Store!!

That’s right! Now you, too can support the beaconhell.com cause by sporting our swag. Not only will you be helping me raise money to get a place to live since that horrible Darwin is throwing his poor brother out into the cold streets, but you’ll also look pretty darn cool sporting a beaconhell tshirt or our “go green” eco shopping tote. Check it out. I’m ordering my tote and caps for all the guys!!! woot!

Sources: Beaconhell.com

The specific claim of donations came from this site:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1295143366200660739&postID=7762811506984370591

Anonymous said...

So, let's recap.

Mono laughed at WS and BH for taking donations.

Then the tool begs like a baby for money from his members, and "forgets" to pay his HostGator bill.

WTF did he spend the donations on, hookers and blow, LMFAO?

17/4/09 1:39 PM

According to this post, it was MONOXIDE otherwise alleged to be known as Josh Wayne Melton who made this claim.

I would suggest that if the owner of Beaconhell.com disputes this claim she contact the source.


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